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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:51 pm
by RenNatsuki-kun
Warning: This is a topic about Genesis and Genesis 2 story plot, if you haven't play or finished the games yet, I never recommend to check this one out to the end.

 

Why i posted it here? Why not. 

 

Well anyway, let's talk about Genesis and it's concept of Time Paradox.

We know that both Ending of the two game showed the upcoming inevitable fate cause by a massive tickling energi bomb, which is Ena herself. Although it's snot explained who's Ena she is.

Now let's talk about the paradox cause by an unknown person and then by Aurra.

First let's talk to this Unknown Person that set the entire duology of Lagoon and Celesia. Without this person, the series will not set on.

But isn't Aurra sent Enah to the another world?

Yes, that's true but think about this, without the unknown first setter, how will the world of Lagoon start in the first place?

Without Enah = No Black Energi, No Black Energi = No Lagoon

It is true that Aurra sent her back again, which is why I called it Enernal Loop Paradox or Basically just Eternal Loop without the Paradox (it may cause problem in some matter, poor grammar is a thing) But this is the second loop, the first loop is unknown how.

Although I have a new theory comes in my mind about the connection of Alphadia Shwarzchild last entry to Genesis.

Energi Distortion and the Sigma Energi.

This one here is a wild one theory, the connection between Alphadia 1-3 (Also called Shwarzchild Trilogy) to Alphadia Genesis 1 and 2.

If you see Enah design, she look mature even with her lolita appearance, dark energi, and the a possibly fact that she is an Energi Clone but a prototype because of her growing, massive endless Energi, the same way, Ash is.

Sigma Energi also appeared in this series which is not making sense since they are just finishing their Energi War 15 years prior and that it only existed in Alphadia 2 as Baroch type of Energi.

Another factor that connect this two series to themselves is that Alphadia 2 is in the era of Mechanical Revolution and that Energi (Pure Energi) is slowly reaching it's point of extinction.

In the trailer, it is also stated that

Energi is a source of power that unconnected to all living things. But what if someone really reach it point and unlocked it's true potential? Which is possible is Enah herself.

If i recall correctly, some part of Alphadia 2, she tell Leon that if you reach Energi true potential, you will gain it's true power.

But since this is just a theory, i might be wrong in these part though it is possible.

 

But what if...

 

 

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:56 pm
by Cainohpue
It's obvious why most storytellers don't want to walk into the trap of the "God above God" paradox. Like mankind is still mostly in the dark about the beginning of all existence, it's equally hard to establish a background for a "God", unless the writer creates another "God" on a higher level (but then this step can and must be repeated ad infinitum).

I think Alphadia Genesis 2 features a solid rebellion storyline that stands on its own feet, and while the ending is shocking, it also renders everything the player has achieved pointless (even with regards to Alphadia Genesis 1 in hindsight), so it's kind of a mixed bag.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:22 am
by Victar
The TV Tropes website calls Enah's situation a "stable time loop".

AG2's ending is disturbing, and never answers the question "Where did Enah come from originally?".

I haven't played the original series of Alphadia games - the only one I have access to at present is the first Alphadia (because I don't own a smartphone) - but I thought Enah was in them? Do the other Alphadia games give any insight into where Enah came from, or whether she is destined to escape the "stable time loop"?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:54 pm
by Sakura
If you count all EIGHT Alphadia games, there are six Enahs.
I-II: Same Enah, II is set 200 years after I.
III: Different Enah, she's older(teenager vs the usual child) and has a different model number 1401 vs 1417(A1 &2). Also Alphadia III is a prequel to I & II
IV, V : Unrelated to other Enahs, both games have characters named Enah but, neither are clones
AG1 & AG2 : You've played AG1 & 2 so you know about her.
Neo : Unknown if related to others, looks to be a nod to I's Enah. Haven't finished it yet.

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:08 am
by RenNatsuki-kun
@sakura is right.

Alphadia 1 and 2 share the same Enah (Energi 1417)

Alphadia 3 introduce the more matured looking Ena (Energi 1401)

Alphadia 4 and 5 introduce new and now a real living thing, Enaria Muntanto and Enaris Dinier. So this one is out

Alphadia Genesis 1 and 2, as we know, is based on the Mysterious Enah

Alphadia Neo is different as well, but mostly more like mixed 1417 and 1401 design. So this is one is out too

 

Although there's one deserve a honorable mention.

Introducing, Energi 0014, also known as Luna.



Luna is part of batch where Alphonse (aka the second Ash) is also part of. She resemble Enah but Adult.

So there's a possibility that the Original Enah might be the second one-digit clone tho she might died somewhere and Ash was hidden somewhere until Karim father found him.

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:24 am
by RenNatsuki-kun


Before even Ash use the name of Ena to 1417, there's already one existed in the past and that she is part of history during the Energi War. And that's the weird part since 1401 is part of rebellion group that against the two countries, mostly to Shwarzchild.

And there are two thing i forgot to mention in my original post.

first is Enah know her name in Alphadia Genesis 2, second is the Ena sigma-type Energi.

Enah in Genesis 1 is a sigma-type as the stated: "One of the type-sigmas created during the Energi War."

And the fact that they're using Alphadian Calendar for day and time.

That's why there's a possibly connection to Alphadia 2 and Genesis.